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Vent Pipe Design

What is the best strategy when designing a vent pipe? Should we minimize the pressure as low as possible in the vent pipe before release even if that results in high velocity (e.g. sonic) conditions? Should I purposely keep high pressure until the end of the pipe by using a restriction such as an orifice near the outlet?

There is no hazard with sonic conditions in the vent system, and virtually all systems will have a sufficient pressure drop between the process and atmospheric exit to cause the gas to reach sonic velocity at some point in the piping. 
 

Placing restrictions in vent lines is not a good practice.  Doing so would potentially restrict the flow and operation of pressure relief devices and also violate various codes and standards that specify maximum back pressure.  For example, back pressure on relief valves is required to be no more than 10% of set pressure by ASME for protection of vessels and piping.  As a general rule, vent systems should be sized so there is less than 10% back pressure from the outlet of the relief device to the exit to atmosphere.  

Vent lines are not always rated to the full pressure of the process system, so dangerous pressures could also build up in the vent line and exceed the pressure rating.  

The preferred vent orientation is vertical.  When venting vertically there is some advantage to "right-sizing" the exit pipe size so the vent velocity out of the pipe remains high for upward momentum to assist the natural buoyancy of hydrogen.  Conversely, high velocity is not always the best for horizontal releases since it will cause the flammable cloud to extend further from the vent stack.

FAQ Category
Submission Year
2025
Month
03

Extinguishing Fires In Vent Systems

What are your insights on the application of systems which would “snuff” hydrogen fires in vent systems? Are there specific scenarios or considerations where their use is particularly beneficial?

There are several concerns with “snuffing” a hydrogen fire from a vent stack. Most importantly, snuffing a hydrogen fire before the hydrogen is isolated can lead to the buildup of a hydrogen vapor cloud, which may then re-ignite, especially with hot surfaces available from the previous fire. The largest hazard is an explosion of the vapor cloud caused by delayed ignition.  It’s always better to isolate the hydrogen at its source to extinguish the fire as fuel runs out. 

Snuffing systems have been used in the past for vent system outlets mainly due to the negative   perception of a visible hydrogen flame at the top of the vent stack, particularly at night.  The success of these systems was marginal since high and sustained rates of inert gas were required to snuff the flame and sufficiently cool the piping outlet to prevent the venting flow from reigniting.  Generally, it’s preferred to design the vent system such that it can withstand a worst-case continuous fire on the outlet without affecting its integrity or surrounding exposures.  If those criteria are met, then it’s inherently safer to allow the vent to burn than to try to snuff it. 

FAQ Category
Submission Year
2025
Month
01

Hydrogen vent stacks at airfields require dispersion analysis and adherence to height restrictions to avoid interference with aircraft.

What are some considerations of hydrogen vent stacks at an airfield with regard to planes overhead?

Dispersion and radiation analysis should be conducted to ensure that the hydrogen cloud will not interfere with the flight path of aircraft. In addition, there may be maximum height requirements due to airport requirements depending on the location of the stack.

FAQ Category
Submission Year
2023
Month
04

The placement of hydrogen vent stacks requires adherence to NFPA 2 and CGA G5.5, with distances determined by dispersion and radiation analyses.

How far should an H2 vent stack be from the closest tank or structures?

Guidance for location of vent stacks is provided by NFPA 2, Hydrogen Technologies Code, which also references CGA G5.5, Hydrogen Vent Systems, for additional guidance. Minimum distances to vent stack outlets should be determined from dispersion and radiation analyses. The height of the vent stack and orientation of the release will affect the minimum separation distance.

FAQ Category
Submission Year
2023
Month
04

Design considerations for vent stacks focus on grounding, ignition prevention, and fire-resistant construction to mitigate stack fires.

Are there any specific design considerations or standards in place to prevent stack fires?

Vent stacks should always be grounded in accordance with electrical standards which will reduce the probability of, but not eliminate, vent stack fires. There are numerous design features, such as toroidal rings, that have been suggested to reduce vent stack fires. However, given the many sources of ignition that can potentially ignite vent stack releases, it is virtually impossible to eliminate all such fires so proper design of the vent stack to be able to withstand over-pressures and continuous flame are critical to the design.

FAQ Category
Submission Year
2023
Month
04

The acceptability of venting small amounts of hydrogen to the atmosphere depends on system evaluation, with vent stacks often being preferred.

In the past, it was acceptable to vent small amounts of hydrogen (e.g. compressor seal vents) to the atmosphere – is this still the case?

Each system must be evaluated individually, and it depends on the amount and location of possible
releases. Routing vent lines to a vent stack is the most common approach when venting directly to
atmosphere is not acceptable.

FAQ Category
Submission Year
2023
Month
04

Best practices for metallic vent stacks focus on safe hydrogen venting, addressing dispersion, ignition, and structural considerations.

What are the best practices for metallic vent stacks?

There are dozens of safety considerations for safe design of hydrogen vent stacks. Their primary function
is to vent the hydrogen safely, so vent stacks should be designed such that the gas dispersion and
radiation profile (if ignited) do not impact surrounding equipment, buildings, or people. Documents such
as CGA G5.5, Hydrogen Vent Systems, provide numerous details regarding design. Vent stacks should be
designed to handle expected thrust loads, weather conditions, and hydrogen ignition scenarios. Various
building and electrical codes describe basic grounding requirements.

FAQ Category
Submission Year
2023
Month
04

Environmental concerns about hydrogen venting from experiments

Any environmental concerns about hydrogen venting from experiments?

The key concern with any hydrogen release is the risk of creating a flammable mixture. There should be no environmental issues if you properly vent hydrogen to a safe area where it is diluted in air below the flammability limit before contacting an ignition source. Very small quantities of hydrogen are frequently releasing into a fume hood. Releases have to be small enough so that the vent air is sufficient to dilute to below the lower flammability limit. The fume hood face velocity should be in excess of 100 ft/min (30 m/min). 

Larger quantities of hydrogen should be released through a properly designed and constructed hydrogen vent stack. Standards and codes such as CGA G 5.5 and NFPA 2 provide guidance for vent stack design and installation.

FAQ Category
Submission Year
2023
Month
09

Hydrogen vent mesh code suggestions

Mesh at vent outlet can result in a fire at the vent. Is there any code suggesting that for hydrogen vent mesh?

Vent stacks must be designed for a fire at the outlet. The mesh is designed to ensure no blockage of the vent stack by animals/insects. 

Additionally, the mesh must be designed for pressure drop to ensure code-compliant back pressure on the relief devices.

FAQ Category
Submission Year
2024
Month
01

Freezing of air inside a cryogenic/LH2 vent system

Has there ever been an issue with the freezing of air inside a cryogenic/LH2 vent system?

Yes, numerous incidents have occurred where frozen air (which contains oxygen) has built up within a hydrogen process or vent system. These incidents with vent systems incorporate more than just a vent stack, but include a vent system consisting of additional atmospheric equipment (such as a tank) where the equipment stays cold and allows air into the system in contact with a cold hydrogen stream. 

Vent systems are at risk since they are “open” to the atmosphere and certain flow conditions might result in the aspiration of air into a cold hydrogen flow which then leads to the freezing of the air. 

A small quantity of solid air can create an explosive hazard which then leads to cascading failures from the initial incident. Solid air in hydrogen is also shock sensitive which can lead to unexpected ignition.

FAQ Category
Submission Year
2024
Month
01
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